Comments for Sancta Maria College http://sanctamariacollege.com Ballyroan, Dublin 16, Ireland, EU. Fri, 28 May 2010 16:22:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Comment on Hot Issue by P white http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-64 P white Fri, 28 May 2010 16:22:19 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-64 Although every child has a right to a proper school to be educated in, I feel by building this beside SMC you are denying them this right. It's not as if they have a state of the art school themselves. Why should one school suffer in order to enhance another one. Surely there are many vacant areas the can be used to facilitate St.C for the period they require. It took SMC years to get their pitches only to have them taken away. I wonder if it was the other way around and SMC wanted to build beside St. Colmcille would they be so accommodating. Although every child has a right to a proper school to be educated in, I feel by building this beside SMC you are denying them this right. It’s not as if they have a state of the art school themselves. Why should one school suffer in order to enhance another one. Surely there are many vacant areas the can be used to facilitate St.C for the period they require. It took SMC years to get their pitches only to have them taken away. I wonder if it was the other way around and SMC wanted to build beside St. Colmcille would they be so accommodating.

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by Elizabeth http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-62 Elizabeth Thu, 20 May 2010 12:49:59 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-62 I'm at a loss to know how the children are to access St Colmcilles in the mornings. The permission granted to Ballyboden St Endas states that the gates cannot open before 10AM. Is Boden Park to become an unofficial car park for the parents of the majority of children who will now have to drive? Who will police the traffic management plan as outlined in the planning application? Ballyboden St Enda's? St Colmcilles? or do we wait for a child to be knocked down? The issue of the safety of the children has been over looked to the shame of all involved. Many sites had been identified closer to the existing school in Knocklyon which are more suitable for the purpose. I think the colour of money might be swaying this one. I’m at a loss to know how the children are to access St Colmcilles in the mornings. The permission granted to Ballyboden St Endas states that the gates cannot open before 10AM. Is Boden Park to become an unofficial car park for the parents of the majority of children who will now have to drive?

Who will police the traffic management plan as outlined in the planning application? Ballyboden St Enda’s? St Colmcilles? or do we wait for a child to be knocked down? The issue of the safety of the children has been over looked to the shame of all involved.

Many sites had been identified closer to the existing school in Knocklyon which are more suitable for the purpose. I think the colour of money might be swaying this one.

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by margaret http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-61 margaret Wed, 19 May 2010 17:35:38 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-61 First of all how on Earth did this idea get approved? Placing 700+ primary students beside Leaving Cert. and Junior Cert. students while they are doing their State Exams! It will be a complete and utter disaster. As for some of the people leaving comments saying " the issue is only about a group of kids being educated for a year and a half near a local secondary school", What about the sancta maria students who will be finishing school after the move? should they just let a bunch of loud noisy kids just 22m away ruin their chances of getting their desired college courses. Because the reality is that the St. Colmcilles students make noise, the Sancta Maria students can't concentrate on their exams, get lower leaving cert. points than needed and therefore don't get their desired college course. First of all how on Earth did this idea get approved? Placing 700+ primary students beside Leaving Cert. and Junior Cert. students while they are doing their State Exams! It will be a complete and utter disaster. As for some of the people leaving comments saying ” the issue is only about a group of kids being educated for a year and a half near a local secondary school”, What about the sancta maria students who will be finishing school after the move? should they just let a bunch of loud noisy kids just 22m away ruin their chances of getting their desired college courses. Because the reality is that the St. Colmcilles students make noise, the Sancta Maria students can’t concentrate on their exams, get lower leaving cert. points than needed and therefore don’t get their desired college course.

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by Nicole http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-60 Nicole Wed, 19 May 2010 15:16:51 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-60 I have a daughter in Sancta Maria and a daughter in St Colmcille's. I am concerned for both of them. From the Sancta Maria perspective, the noise levels, the traffic and the total disregard for the students learning welfare is outrageous. As for my younger daughter in St-colmcille's I am concerned about where her yard and PE will take place given that SMC have priority for the use of the pitches (rightly so). Her learning environment will be changed suddenly in the middle of the school year which will impact on her & her classmates. The further distance she will have to travel to get to school is ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with St-Colmcille's Junior or Senior National school and if their principals stopped widening the catchment area of the school, there would be no need for any of this. I strongly disagree with all of it. My understanding is that there were numerous objections to this but the planning permission was granted regardless. Its all wrong! Not to mention that Sancta Maria are in dire need of new facilities. I fail to make any sense of this. Amazing that they couldn't find room on any of the other Ballyboden sites or Knocklyon open green spaces, or, as pointed out by Margaret above, what's wrong with the Community School's grounds? I am a Knocklyon resident and fail to understand why the school is being moved to Rathfarnham. I have a daughter in Sancta Maria and a daughter in St Colmcille’s. I am concerned for both of them. From the Sancta Maria perspective, the noise levels, the traffic and the total disregard for the students learning welfare is outrageous. As for my younger daughter in St-colmcille’s I am concerned about where her yard and PE will take place given that SMC have priority for the use of the pitches (rightly so). Her learning environment will be changed suddenly in the middle of the school year which will impact on her & her classmates. The further distance she will have to travel to get to school is ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with St-Colmcille’s Junior or Senior National school and if their principals stopped widening the catchment area of the school, there would be no need for any of this. I strongly disagree with all of it. My understanding is that there were numerous objections to this but the planning permission was granted regardless. Its all wrong! Not to mention that Sancta Maria are in dire need of new facilities. I fail to make any sense of this. Amazing that they couldn’t find room on any of the other Ballyboden sites or Knocklyon open green spaces, or, as pointed out by Margaret above, what’s wrong with the Community School’s grounds? I am a Knocklyon resident and fail to understand why the school is being moved to Rathfarnham.

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by Jason http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-59 Jason Tue, 18 May 2010 17:33:09 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-59 Sancta Maria College is already in dire need of refurbishment and upgrading. To add this proposed site share will most certainly have a detrimental effect on the SMC pupils, who deserve to have their rights protected. This is not about denying 700 Knocklyon pupils a new school. It is about the protection of the rights of the students in SMC to be educated in a comfortable environment. I am not in favour of the proposed site share bearing in mind the above point and the volumes of young people and volumes of traffic involved. Sancta Maria needs new buildings and certainly does not need this at this stage! Sancta Maria College is already in dire need of refurbishment and upgrading. To add this proposed site share will most certainly have a detrimental effect on the SMC pupils, who deserve to have their rights protected. This is not about denying 700 Knocklyon pupils a new school. It is about the protection of the rights of the students in SMC to be educated in a comfortable environment. I am not in favour of the proposed site share bearing in mind the above point and the volumes of young people and volumes of traffic involved. Sancta Maria needs new buildings and certainly does not need this at this stage!

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by Derek http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-58 Derek Mon, 17 May 2010 21:24:41 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-58 All depends on what you mean by ‘suitable’ Anita? Is it suitable that only the financial benefits to Ballyboden GAA and Colmcille’s are considered. Ballyboden gains financially by getting a fully serviced foundation the length of the pitch for free, which they will be able to build a stand and clubhouse on, similar to Shamrock rover’s grounds in Tallaght. This financial gain is clearly in breach of the lease agreement, which was entered into with the Mercy order. Colmcille’s gain by getting free use of the Ballyboden resources to the detriment of the students of SMC. The planning permission does not state an exact start date or end date. Start in 2010 end in 2013 – so already it has stretched to 3.5 years. Where is the evidence of huge support, no vote was taken, no consultation with the residents of Templeroan, Ballyboden, Ballyroan. Every area in Knocklyon rejected the temporary location in their area. All depends on what you mean by ‘suitable’ Anita?
Is it suitable that only the financial benefits to Ballyboden GAA and Colmcille’s are considered. Ballyboden gains financially by getting a fully serviced foundation the length of the pitch for free, which they will be able to build a stand and clubhouse on, similar to Shamrock rover’s grounds in Tallaght. This financial gain is clearly in breach of the lease agreement, which was entered into with the Mercy order. Colmcille’s gain by getting free use of the Ballyboden resources to the detriment of the students of SMC.
The planning permission does not state an exact start date or end date. Start in 2010 end in 2013 – so already it has stretched to 3.5 years.
Where is the evidence of huge support, no vote was taken, no consultation with the residents of Templeroan, Ballyboden, Ballyroan. Every area in Knocklyon rejected the temporary location in their area.

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by ciara http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-57 ciara Mon, 17 May 2010 15:04:38 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-57 I am now a third year student in sancta maria and i disagree with the building of the two storey school.. It is going to be very busy and will block the sun from coming into the 3rd years class and also many of the 3rd years will be distracted from them screaming and we do not need the extra distractions from our exam studies ... I am now a third year student in sancta maria and i disagree with the building of the two storey school.. It is going to be very busy and will block the sun from coming into the 3rd years class and also many of the 3rd years will be distracted from them screaming and we do not need the extra distractions from our exam studies …

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by margaretryan http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-56 margaretryan Mon, 17 May 2010 14:47:08 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-56 Having reared my family in Templeroan I was looking forward to peace and quiet in my later years, I now am faced with more noise and traffic in the area thanks to the people involved. Also as my house will be overlooked by this two storey prefab I am being forced to move. Did anybody stop and consider parishoners who have reared their families and contributed to this parish over the years. Having reared my family in Templeroan I was looking forward to peace and quiet in my later years, I now am faced with more noise and traffic in the area thanks to the people involved. Also as my house will be overlooked by this two storey prefab I am being forced to move. Did anybody stop and consider parishoners who have reared their families and contributed to this parish over the years.

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by Lisa http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-55 Lisa Sun, 16 May 2010 20:14:45 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-55 I am appalled and disgusted that planning has been approved for the prefabs. These buildings will be almost adjacent to our school I will not appreciate the screams of 700 primary school children during my Leaving Cert! Not only will our priority for the pitches be denied (where else will these pupils play during lunchtime?), but the noise levels will disrupt learning and the Templeroan and Ballyboden entrances will no longer be safe for pedestrians. It is not just the alumni and staff of SMC that will be affected. Templeroan has a huge traffic problem every morning adding any more cars will be ridiculous. This is incredibly foolish approval. How will this benefit Colmcilles in any way? I find it hard to believe they will safely fit 30 prefabs into the proposed location. Problems such as staff parking, lunch areas, safety issues etc will have to be addressed. Our local TDs Tom Kitt, Olivia Mitchell and Alan Shatter have let us down allowing this planning permission to go ahead. I will not be supporting any of these polititions in the next elections. The proposed two years could easily turn into ten. As Alison mentioned, the Colmcilles building are newer than SMC’s. Will we ever get a school building that reflects our great community spirit? Or will we continue to be passed over? I am appalled and disgusted that planning has been approved for the prefabs. These buildings will be almost adjacent to our school I will not appreciate the screams of 700 primary school children during my Leaving Cert! Not only will our priority for the pitches be denied (where else will these pupils play during lunchtime?), but the noise levels will disrupt learning and the Templeroan and Ballyboden entrances will no longer be safe for pedestrians.
It is not just the alumni and staff of SMC that will be affected. Templeroan has a huge traffic problem every morning adding any more cars will be ridiculous. This is incredibly foolish approval. How will this benefit Colmcilles in any way? I find it hard to believe they will safely fit 30 prefabs into the proposed location. Problems such as staff parking, lunch areas, safety issues etc will have to be addressed.
Our local TDs Tom Kitt, Olivia Mitchell and Alan Shatter have let us down allowing this planning permission to go ahead. I will not be supporting any of these polititions in the next elections.
The proposed two years could easily turn into ten.
As Alison mentioned, the Colmcilles building are newer than SMC’s. Will we ever get a school building that reflects our great community spirit? Or will we continue to be passed over?

]]> Comment on Hot Issue by anita mulligan http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101&cpage=2#comment-54 anita mulligan Thu, 13 May 2010 22:49:52 +0000 http://sanctamariacollege.com/?p=101#comment-54 I agree with Anne O Sullivan. The children of Knocklyon deserve proper classrooms. Sancta Maria's pupils deserve better facilities too. It beggars belief that two schools so close to each other would fail to cooperate. There is no other suitable site in the locality for this 'temporary' school. The planning permission from South Dublin County Council states clearly that the temporary school can only remain at the Ballyboden St Endas grounds for a maximum of two years. I understand that Knocklyon's new school is the biggest primary school building project ever undertaken by the Department of Education. There is huge support for this project from thousands of families in Knocklyon which is still a developing community. I fear that if this project is scuppered on the grounds that the St Colmcilles senior pupils will be 'too noisy', 'cause traffic congestion' or 'interfere with PE/Games in Sancta Maria' for the year and a half or so that they will be there, that the reputation of the people of the Ballyroan and Knocklyon will take a hammering in the media. I can just imagine the headline: 'South Dublin Secondary School Stops Building of Ireland's Largest Primary School- hundreds of construction jobs lost because of disagreement between two Southside schools.' With closer co-operation between the two schools surely the issues of concern can be sorted out. Common sense should prevail in the interest of both schools, otherwise neither Knocklyon nor Ballyroan may ever get proper school accommodation. The Boards of Management of the two schools must be afraid of that scenario. That's why they should work together for the benefit of future pupils in both schools. I agree with Anne O Sullivan. The children of Knocklyon deserve proper classrooms. Sancta Maria’s pupils deserve better facilities too. It beggars belief that two schools so close to each other would fail to cooperate. There is no other suitable site in the locality for this ‘temporary’ school. The planning permission from South Dublin County Council states clearly that the temporary school can only remain at the Ballyboden St Endas grounds for a maximum of two years. I understand that Knocklyon’s new school is the biggest primary school building project ever undertaken by the Department of Education. There is huge support for this project from thousands of families in Knocklyon which is still a developing community. I fear that if this project is scuppered on the grounds that the St Colmcilles senior pupils will be ‘too noisy’, ’cause traffic congestion’ or ‘interfere with PE/Games in Sancta Maria’ for the year and a half or so that they will be there, that the reputation of the people of the Ballyroan and Knocklyon will take a hammering in the media. I can just imagine the headline:
‘South Dublin Secondary School Stops Building of Ireland’s Largest Primary School- hundreds of construction jobs lost because of disagreement between two Southside schools.’
With closer co-operation between the two schools surely the issues of concern can be sorted out. Common sense should prevail in the interest of both schools, otherwise neither Knocklyon nor Ballyroan may ever get proper school accommodation. The Boards of Management of the two schools must be afraid of that scenario. That’s why they should work together for the benefit of future pupils in both schools.

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